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  1. #21 Re: rear lights, possibilities, alternatives 
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    I am at a loss to understand what is more (official) than a current IVA test ? in this country of course.
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    Hi Axel,

    I can tell that you are determined to change them as at the moment you do not feel safe driving with them as they are.
    If you do not feel that you have the skill to manufacture some form of plinth to mount your existing or even an alternative style on, and you do not have access to someone who could do so even at a reasonable cost then may I suggest a look at motorcycle / Quad bike lights. These are normally designed for flexible mounting.
    Take a look at these.....
    http://www.bikermart.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=255-880
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sportster-Green View Post
    @patrick: a nice car!!!!
    Thanks Many more pics on my build log here: http://www.msportster.co.uk/
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    @jon...those quad lights look not too bad...but the description says "rear light and indicator"...nothing about brake-lights....

    @danny " am at a loss to understand what is more (official) than a current IVA test ? in this country of course."

    the IVA test is done by persons....the "official" thing is the IVA manual.....if the testers let things pass, which should not pass....thats a different matter.


    we all shouldnt deny the facts that a light cluster which was desinged to be fitted vertical has a poor light emission if fitted inclined.
    if testers, which should be responsible for road safety, let such things pass does not make things automatically legal.

    even my tester passed those lights, but saying "those lights need to be fitted vertical to be legal"..".if i would fail you, you will be back in 2 hours with something legal, which you keep fitted to the car until back home in your garage...."

    you know what i mean: its officially a fail...but the "official" person let me pass.

    in the meanwhile...after some really bad and dangerous expiriences i realized myselves that those lights are wrong.

    i have received some of those old-fashioned lucas ones, which i mentioned above. they will be fitted in the next months during winter time. car is on sorn at the moment.
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    This is an interesting selection of posts that has stimulated some interesting and useful debate and motivated me out of my usual reclusive observation of the forum...

    Sportster Green or Axel (I believe) if I may, raises many applicable comments with regard the disparate interpretation of the uk iva (or any assessment regime) and what is deemed 'acceptable' in the eyes of assessors and mot personnel in the application of such rules or future interpretation given their knowledge of what can or will likely happen after the 'event' or perhaps what is 'reasonable' given an applicant's clear understanding, dedication and appreciation of safety and their demonstrable capability in other areas of the vehicle's assembly/maintenance/restoration (this being applicable to myself in many an mot and potentially others on this forum with their dedicated attention to build quality (see build diaries for some such examples)).

    Clearly this is the very interpretation that leads to equal vehicles being passed at one assessment location and failed at others as is often the topic of discussion in kit car magazines/forums.

    Whilst acknowledging the aforementioned points one should of course be mindful that if an official of such a regulatory body deems a vehicle to be in accordance with said regulations then frankly a pass is a pass and thank you very much. However... That aside personal preference with regard safety in real world situations is at the end of the day what is paramount in a driver's continued existence and enjoyment of their hard earned kit car so any improvement above and beyond that which 'passes' the legislative requirements of a country can only be a good thing; although one must always be mindful of going beyond what is reasonably required to ensure one's own roadworthiness.

    Finally notwithstanding all before, I fully advocate the modification of vehicles to suit an individual's requirements or tastes.

    # On a personal note, Danny re donnington, damn it it's just not legal ;-) - personal joke, you had to be there #
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    Hi Axel,

    The company that supplies / imports these is actually German and based in Hamburg. Take a look at their website http://www.shin-yo.de/
    They have some other options on their which are very similar to your current lamps and say they are certified for use with cars. I would suggest you pick up the phone to these guys and ask lots of questions about mounting lights according to the German law and for your safety concerns.
    Hope this helps.
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    a quad, up to 15kW power needs, by EU law, only 1 rear light and 1 brakelight.

    i guess, the mentioned lamps are an upgrade and the single brake light remains untouched in the centre?
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  8. #28 Re: rear lights, possibilities, alternatives 
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    Hi,

    I have spoken to the company on your behalf. These light fittings (and all of their light fittings) support both functions of STOP and TAIL. More importantly. these units have NO license plate illumination function making them ideal for use on a car.

    I feel I have done all I can to help you in this matter and the decision is now yours to take.
    Hope this helps.
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    meanwhile i have fitted some different rear lights from a farm tractor....looked ok on the pics when ordered, but look not right after fitting.

    now i came across some www pictures of some marlin cars (mainly roadsters, but also sporsters) which look like they came from the factory with rear wings with posts for some trailer lights:

    i mean this:

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